kato age two

That Abe...


That Abe continues to lose weight at an alarming rate and is now down to a feeble 11.5kg.  She has been on the Vivatonin for quite some time now – and I don’t think we have seen any improvement.

 She has three main problems

(1)    Unexplained rapid weight loss

(2)    Agitation

(3)    Severe tooth ache – leading to her snapping at both me and Kato. (and I think this affects no 2)

The vet had offered to give Abe a general anaesthetic and do scans/x-rays to see if we could locate the problem. But in a 13.5 year old dog this would be with risk so we declined – and there’s always that issue about what do you do with the information once you have it.

However, as her poorly teeth are giving her so much trouble, we made the decision on a quality of life basis to have the teeth removed and so she may as well, while she is under the anaesthetic, have the x-rays and scans.

Abe went off to the vets this morning – they didn’t give her a general they sedated her, and because those tests showed up some possible symptoms of an underlying bowel/gut disease, they (the vets) made the decision not to take the teeth out as “she may have cancer”. The only way to determine this for definite would be referral to a specialist and more tests. I don’t feel this is the right route for such an elderly dog but I did feel the agonising toothache was imperative.

I’m sure none of you need the obvious statement that the bowel cancer does not cancel out the tooth ache. This really would be like saying to a human – sorry, we haven’t fixed your agonising fracture but you might have lung cancer which is far worse.

The other issue – the agitation. It is heartbreaking to hear her stressing and fretting, so I asked for some sedation which we could administer when Abe’s misery is excessive. I was offered a DAP diffuser but I have no faith in such hocus pocus (and we did try one once) and I want scientifically proven medication. The vet said there are no sedatives for dogs – so what they sedated her with this morning must be some magical chemical and the tablet that Abe once had to keep her chilled out while she had stitches removed must exist only in my imagination.

Oh said the vet – dogs do take diazepam for agitation – well give us some of that then. No, Abe has been prescribed Zylkène    http://www.zylkene.co.uk/  (active ingredient casozepine) which turns out to be yet another “natural remedy” a DAP diffuser in tablet form. The evidence is anecdotal and not remotely scientific. It is claimed to have no side effects which in itself hints towards it up to be a pointless placebo.
Well, I say prescribed, it’s actually available from Amazon.co.uk and considerably cheaper than what we just paid the vet.

So, we'll be back to the vets with my tiny half shaved skeleton of a dog to demand the teeth are removed. I just want her to have a pain and agitation free sunset on her life.


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I was wondering if we could visit, or whether visitors would be too stressful for Abe.

Would a different vet be a possibility?
Do let us know if we can help in anyway, Joolz and I are both a short walk away. Hope Abe can get some relief from all the bad stuff.
For crying out loud!!! poor little mite....

I do use a DAP for Barnum but it wouldnt help for pain symptoms... I was actually amazed it worked... (He kept waking up in the night and stressing out)

How maddening and upsetting - was the vet really thinking in the animal's best interests when deciding the overall course of action? Cause somehow it doesn't read that way :-(
Hope you find some respite for her soon from the agitation and tooth pain. x
Can you maybe ask for a second opinion re the agitation? It seems them crazy saying 'oh yeah, diazepam is a possibility' but then not offering you it!
Sorry to be so late offering That Abe and you sympathy (I unexpectedly went on holiday to Wales with out a computer) Big hugs to you all.